Monday, June 29, 2015

Kim And Kanye Are Getting The Boy They Want. What Are The Ethics Of Sex Selection?


Wednesday morning, the phones at The Fertility Institute were ringing off the hook. Dr. Jeffrey Steinberg knew exactly who to thank for the influx of calls: the Kardashians.
Kim had just announced that she and Kanye were expecting a second child, a boy conceived through In Vitro Fertilization. Kim reportedly had only male embryos implanted; as you may have heard, she and Kanye already have a girl. Now they want a boy.
Steinberg founded The Fertility Institute in 1986. The technology utilized by the Kardashian-Wests isn’t brand new, he pointed out — sex-selection is about 20 years old, IVF near 35 — but “people call us up, and they can’t believe it’s available.” After Kim and Kanye’s announcement, the center was “blitzed” by calls, Steinberg said.
“We’ve already dipped our toes into the water on physical characteristics,” he said. “We’re working on eye color. So that’s going to be the next step.”
And this is where the science gets dicey, if not medically, at least intellectually. General consensus is on board with screening out genetic disorders and disease, of sparing pain where pain can be spared. But sex is a more provocative call, maybe made more so by the vision of Kanye and Kim — were two humans ever more inclined to customize the universe to their personal tastes? — ordering a boy to round out the set. The clan they’ll have, should all go according to plan, is “a millionaire’s family”: a husband, a wife, a daughter, a son. Is there anything ethically questionable about giving parents the power to select the sex of their child?
“In America, autonomy reigns supreme,” said Dr. John D. Loike, the director for special programs for the Center for Bioethics at Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons. “People who are educated have the right to choose their destiny, their medical care, what they want to do with their bodies: from euthanasia to therapy.”
Frances Kissling is president of the Center for Health, Ethics and Social Policy and is a visiting scholar at the Center for Bioethics at the University of Pennsylvania. She allowed that there are “definitely ethical questions” about sex selection but “it’s also pretty accepted in the ethical community.” With sex selection through IVF, as with any technology, she said, you can’t lose sight of one question: “What harm comes of this?”
There are different circumstances that might render the ostensibly innocuous choice a discriminatory one. “Generally speaking, within that kind of selection, people aren’t saying they want girls,” said Kissling. “They’re saying: a son is necessary because sons are of greater value than girls.” In the case of Kim and Kanye, “They wanted a boy because they wanted a boy and a girl. So the question really is: what do we think about that? And who gets to think about that? Who gets to decide what we do about that?”
I get about five to seven requests a month for eye color. We know the gene and what it takes. It won’t be long.
The knee-jerk rejection of sex selection, she said, comes from the traditional attitude that “you should take what you get in life. There’s something wrong with deliberately choosing characteristics. It smacks of the ‘designer baby’ idea. Then you have to examine that: why do you think that is a problem? Is there something wrong with a couple wanting to plan their family to that extent? And then you have to say: why do you think there’s something wrong with a couple wanting to plan their family? You get into a whole series of ideas about things like spontaneity, accepting what is given to you. Is this a desire for perfection?”
Among “most mainstream ethicists,” Kissling said, “They don’t see anything inherently wrong in making decisions about planning family around balance.”
“I’ve long believed the worst thing in the world you can do is put handcuffs on a scientist,” said Steinberg. “The biggest misconception is that we’re playing God: we’re making decisions about who boys and girls are going to be. But that’s genetic engineering: you can’t make boys and girls. Once you’ve made them, we are allowed to study what you’ve done and see what you’ve got.” Which is to say: if all the fertilized embryos are female, there’s nothing the doctor could do to change that. But if some are male and some are female, a doctor can provide that information and hopeful parents can use that information as they choose.
“So are we playing God?” Steinberg asked. “Well, doctors play God every day. If you get appendicitis, God says you’re dead. A surgeon can save your life and you’re not dead.”
Popular acceptance for sex-selection, Steinberg thinks, isn’t far away. “Because the Kardashians, for better or for worse, are revered. It’s a phenomenon… And the public seems to not take them as a threat, so everything that they do is generally well-accepted by the public, even when they do something the public doesn’t like.”
“As more and more word gets out about it, this will really set the world on fire,” said Steinberg. “When I did IVF from the very beginning, I walked through the parking lot and someone put a note on my windshield that said ‘Test tube babies have no soul.’ That was 35 years ago. So society is slow and new things are scary.”
“One of the things you learn in reproductive medicine is, you can’t impose your will on other people,” Steinberg said. “The government and physicians have no place in that, other than to steer people away from things that might be dangerous. I’ve had deaf couples come in and ask to have a deaf baby, and I draw a line. Genetically, we can prevent that from happening, and they want just the opposite. We don’t do that, because it has the potential for harm. So as long as we’re on the side of doing good, I really don’t have any qualms about it.”
Potential patients at The Fertility Institute undergo consultations that last about three and a half hours, said Steinberg, and about 15 percent are referred to a psychologist before the procedure can begin. Much of that consult is devoted to keeping certain hopes under control. “There are people with unrealistic expectations,” Steinberg said. “Famous athletes come in and want someone who can throw a baseball really fast, and I say, what if your son can’t do that?”
The biggest misconception is that we’re playing God: we’re making decisions about who boys and girls are going to be.
And what is the psychological impact on a person who finds out that they are the sex they are because their parents insisted upon it? Is there some added, unquantifiable pressure to behave or present in a way that is stereotypically male or female when you know that your parents selected your sex? What if that person is biologically male but identifies as female? It’s still too soon to tell, said Steinberg, as studies haven’t been done yet on if and how parents reveal that information to their kids, and how kids respond to that intel once they have it. “I almost want to do the paper myself,” he said. “I don’t know of any paper that’s looked at this.”
“The thing we try to do, as an ethicist, is avoid making assumptions or judgments about people’s motivations and how they would behave based on certain things,” said Kissling. “A natural bias that we would have is, if somebody went to the trouble of deliberately creating a boy, you would think that they would be more likely to be disappointed if, having had a boy, the boy then rejected the gender because they had chosen that gender. But you don’t really know that, because people are infinitely unpredictable. They might be just as happy.”
“Family balance is a human instinct,” said Steinberg. “And the use of modern technology made it happen. And maybe it’s a survival instinct: we need women and we need men. The paths have merged, but there’s a still a difference between boys and girls. They’re equally and critically important. I’ve seen families walk in with seven boys, and they want a girl. I don’t think any story is telling them to do it. It’s something built in to human beings.”
The Fertility Institute has a database of about 8,000 people. Add up the entire thing, and you’ll find that 50.5 percent of parents request female babies, and 49.5 percent want male. It varies a great deal by region: Canada and France are heavy on the girls, most of Asia, Germany and Britain on the boys. Now that laws in China forbidding multiple children have been lifted, “they’re all pouring in for girls,” said Steinberg, as many already have boys. “They’ve become very traditional.” A study cited by Loike found the male/female ratio in sex selection on the east coast was “exactly fifty-fifty.”
Steinberg claims most of his patients have “total acceptance of outcome regardless of what it is,” but he also admits that “we’ve never gotten the wrong gender,” so it’s not like he’s had to test the theory.
As for the brave new world of, as Kissling put it, “designer babies,” that dystopic (or utopic, depending on your point of view) future may be closer than you think.
“I get about five to seven requests a month for eye color,” Steinberg said. “We know the gene and what it takes. It won’t be long.”
“I’m not judgmental about a person” who wants to select a child’s physical traits, said Kissling. “I don’t think, ‘Oh my God, that’s a terrible thing to want. It’s terrible to want to have an attractive child. We should be content with healthy children, ten toes and ten fingers.’ I’m not prepared to look at it that way.”
The risk of this technological development might be more societal than personal. IVF is expensive; it’s not always covered by insurance. As individuals who seek it out are able to essentially be architects of the next generation, and “if the government isn’t going to pay for it and make it available to a wider socioeconomic class of people, and [IVF is] only privately available, what’s the potential social harm that comes from allowing rich people, or people of means, to create many people who have a much better chance of success?” Kissling asked. “Do we exacerbate class differences within society?”
We know there’s a predisposition against people who are trying to create perfect children.
This technology “makes us nervous because we don’t trust the goodness of people,” Kissling said. “We’ve seen how these technologies have been misused,” said Kissling. “Maybe sex selection is the first step along the way and each of these steps: if you accept sex selection, then you accept the next thing, which is intelligence selection, and then you have nothing but designer people… And maybe we have no business interfering in procreation. [That’s the other] end of the spectrum: trusting everything to God. If you should have a boy and a girl, God will give them to you, and if not, you just take what you get. But that’s unsatisfactory, too.”
People tend to feel a kind of revulsion at the idea of programming ideal offspring, Kissling said. “We know there’s a predisposition against people who are trying to create perfect children.” But she referenced philosopher-bioethicistJulian Savulescu, a man “at the edge of some of this discourse” who believes that “parents have an obligation to have the best children they can.”
Savluescu’s theory, as explained by Kissling: “We live in a very complex, threatened world, and we need very bright, skilled people to deal with the challenges we face. We need to work on things like curing diseases, solving climate change, figuring out how to feed the people of the world, and an important element of that is having people who have the capacity to solve these problems. Therefore, if you really care about the future of humanity, and if we have this ability to produce children who are more likely to be able to solve these problems, then it is imperative — it’s a moral obligation — to do that.”
I ask about Steinberg about the worst case scenario: is he worried about some master race thing, where all the richest people ask for Aryan Barbie-babies, all blonde hair and blue eyes, a pack of Third Reich poster kids?
“When I hear you say it like that, it worries me,” he said. “But practically, when I’m sitting with patients, you’d think everyone wants blue eyes and they don’t. They want everything under the sun. The variety is there, just like boys and girls.” And he can’t create genes that aren’t there. “Everybody wants what they can’t have. Most requests for green and blue eyes come from brown-eyed people. [But] if they don’t have the genes, they can’t have the baby. Most people end up not being able to get what they want.”
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10 Tricks That Will Boost Your Google Search Skills


Did you know Google searches can do a lot more than just provide you with a bunch of useful links? These ten tricks will help turn you into a Google ninja.
1. Find Phone Numbers
If you punch in the digits of a phone number including its area code, it will bring up the name and address of the person or business connected to that number.
2. Calculator
If you’re stuck trying to find a solution to your kid’s homework problems, Google can solve some math problems. Typing, for example, “40+2” gives you the answer “42.” This will also display the calculator so you can type in more equations.
3. Exchange Rate Calculator
Going on a trip? Type in the name of your original currency, the word “to” and the currency you want to convert to: for example, “dollar to pound.” Not only will Google make the currency conversion, it displays the currency calculator. From here you can change the amount of money you convert, as well as choose different currencies from the drop down menus.
4. Stocks
Type in a stock’s abbreviated name, or stock symbol, to find stock quotes, charts, market cap, trading volume, relevant links and more. For example, if you type “goog” you will see results for Google stock.
5. Track Flights
Want to find out where in the world a specific flight is right now? Type in the name of the airline and the flight number and Google will display the flight information. Keep in mind though that this information will only be accurate for the current flight that is in the air at that time or about to take off, since airlines always reuse flight numbers.
6. Dictionary
Google can bypass other dictionary search results and define words that you are looking for if you type in the word “define” followed by the word that you’re seeking. For example, to find out what the word “perspicacious” means, type “define perspicacious” in the Google search field.
7. Weather
Need to find out if you should bring an umbrella when you leave the house? Type in the word “weather” and the zip code for the area you want. For example, type “weather 10023” in a Google search and you will see the weather for New York City. Google provides an hourly forecast for the current day and a full seven-day weather forecast for that week.
8.  Search a Specific Site for a Word
Only want to find results for the search you are doing from a specific site? Type in “site:” immediately followed without a space by the name of the website you want to search through and then the word you are looking for. For example, to find results for the word “coffee” on The Guardian website, type “site:theguardian.com coffee”
9. Search for PDF Files
Similar to the format just above, to only pull up results for PDF files—very handy if you are looking for technical information—just type in “filetype:PDF” followed by your search words.
10. Do A Barrel Roll
This one is just for fun. Type “Do a Barrel Roll” into a Google Search and watch what happens :-)
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Top 25 Actors for Next Expendables.


This is my personal list of actors for Expendables 4 and onward. My rules that factor into my picks were 1:Mentioning interest in the franchise will effect place 2:Male only (Not sexist, I'm saving them for the Expendabelles) 3:Action history Remember, this list is completely personal, so there will be some bias. Also, anyone who has confirmed being in it will not be included in this list (The Rock, Hulk Hogan, Pierce Brosnan)

THIS LIST IS IN BACKWARDS ORDER!!! I couldn't make it start from the top and go down sorry. Ryan Reynolds is actually at 25
1.
Ryan Reynolds
Actor, Green Lantern
Ryan Rodney Reynolds was born on October 23, 1976 in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, the youngest of four children. His father, Jim, was a food wholesaler and his mother, Tammy, was a retail-store saleswoman. Between 1991-93, Ryan appeared in Fifteen, a Nickleodeon series taped in Florida with many other Canadian actors...
“ This might seem somewhat as a strange choice, which is why he is all the way up here. I just like Ryan Reynolds. But, he is a bit too modern for Expendables


The Green Lantern, Foolproof ” - trevor-golter
 
2.
Mark Wahlberg
Actor, Boogie Nights
American actor Mark Wahlberg is one of a handful of respected entertainers who successfully made the transition from teen pop idol to respected actor. A Best Supporting Actor Oscar nominee for The Departed who went on to receive positive critical reviews for his performance in The Fighter, Wahlberg also is a solid comedy actor, proven by his starring role inTed...
“ Although he has been in the action business a bit longer than Reynolds, he still is a somewhat modern actor. Still a great action actor


The Italian Job, Shooter ” - trevor-golter
 
3.
Matt Damon
Matthew Paige Damon was born on October 8, 1970, in Boston Massachusetts, to Kent Damon, a stockbroker, realtor and tax preparer, and Nancy Carlsson-Paige, an early childhood education professor at Lesley University. Matt has an older brother named Kyle who is now a sculptor. His father is of English and Scottish descent...
“ Again, maybe a tad too modern... That's all, can't think of much else too say.


The Bourne Ultimatum, The Departed  ” - trevor-golter
 
4.
Cary Elwes
Cary Elwes was born in Westminster, London, England, the third son of interior designer/shipping heiress Tessa Georgina Kennedy and the late portrait painter Bede Evelyn Dominick Elwes. He is the brother of producer/agent Cassian Elwes and artist Damian Elwes. He was raised in London and attended Harrow...
“ I might have put Cary a bit higher, but it seems he almost never uses guns, uses swords though. Or really action.


The Princess Bride, Robin Hood: Men in Tights ” - trevor-golter
 
5.
Keanu Reeves
Actor, The Matrix
Keanu Reeves, whose first name means "cool breeze over the mountains" in Hawaiian, was born in Beirut, Lebanon in 1964, the son of English-born Patricia Taylor, a showgirl, and American-born Samuel Nowlin Reeves, a geologist. Keanu's father was born in Hawaii, of British, Portuguese, Native Hawaiian...
“ Although his style of acting really doesn't fit the Expendables style of film, it was really hard to not include this guy.


The Matrix, John Wick ” - trevor-golter
 
6.
Ving Rhames
Actor, Pulp Fiction
Strikingly featured and muscular African American actor who was born and raised in Harlem, New York. Irving "Ving" Rhames had studied dramatic arts at the New York High School of Performing Arts and then at the Julliard School of Drama. After graduating from Julliard, Rhames went on to perform in Shakespeare in the Park productions...
“ Need a tough looking black guy? You get Ving Rhames. Again, can't think of much to say.


Pulp Fiction, Con Air ” - trevor-golter
 
7.
Brendan Fraser
Actor, The Mummy
Brendan James Fraser was born in Indianapolis, Indiana, to Canadian parents Carol Mary (Genereux), a sales counselor, and Peter Fraser, a journalist and travel executive. He is of Irish, Scottish, German, Czech, and French-Canadian ancestry. As his parents frequently moved, Brendan can claim affinity with Ottawa...
“ I'll be honest, this guy is mostly bias.... But come on! He would fit in perfectly with his athletic build and his style of wit! Although he really hasn't done much action.... sorry....


The Mummy, Journey to the Center of the Earth  ” - trevor-golter
 
8.
Sean Bean
Sean Bean, England's most versatile actor, holds a stellar career spanning every medium for approximately 20 years, in theater, radio, television and movies. Bean was born in Handsworth, Sheffield, West Riding of Yorkshire, to Rita (Tuckwood) and Brian Bean. He worked for his father's welding firm before he decided to become an actor...
“ I really change my opinions about this guy, but I'm going to put him here before I change again. But we all know what would happen if he was put in...


The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring, Goldeneye  ”- trevor-golter
 
9.
Will Smith
Actor, Men in Black
Willard Carroll Smith, Jr. was born in West Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, the second of four children of Caroline (Bright), a school board employee, and Willard Carroll Smith, Sr., who owned a refrigeration company. He grew up in a middle class area in West Philadelphia called Wynnefield. Will attended the Overbrook High School located in the Overbrook section of Philadelphia...
“ I'll be honest, I have a hard time imagining the Fresh Prince next to Sly and the rest. I can't think of any other good excuses though.


Men In Black, Bad Boys ” - trevor-golter
 
10.
Denzel Washington
Denzel Hayes Washington, Jr. was born on December 28, 1954 in Mount Vernon, New York. He is the middle of three children of a beautician mother, Lennis (Lowe), from Georgia, and a Pentecostal minister father, Denzel Washington, Sr., from Virginia. After graduating from high school, Denzel enrolled at Fordham University...
“ I promise, I'm trying with these bios.... and failing


The Book of Eli, The Equalizer  ” - trevor-golter
 
11.
John Travolta
Actor, Pulp Fiction
John Travolta was born in Englewood, New Jersey, one of six children of Helen Travolta (née Helen Cecilia Burke) and Salvatore Travolta. His father was of Italian descent and his mother was of Irish ancestry. His father owned a tire repair shop called Travolta Tires in Hillsdale, NJ. Travolta appeared in a local production of "Who'll Save the Plowboy?"...
“ Would he play the villian (probably not) or an expendable, or neither. I don't know.


Pulp Fiction, The Punisher ” - trevor-golter
 
12.
Vin Diesel
Vin Diesel was born Mark Sinclair in Alameda County, California, along with his fraternal twin brother, Paul Vincent. He was raised by his astrologer/psychologist mother, Delora Sherleen (Sinclair), and adoptive father, Irving H. Vincent, an acting instructor and theater manager, in an artist's housing project in New York City's Greenwich Village...
“ Man, I'm really not too good with this whole bio thing. Having a hard time thinking of things.


The Chronicles of Riddick, The Fast and the Furious ” - trevor-golter
 
13.
Russell Crowe
Actor, Gladiator
Russell Ira Crowe was born in Wellington, New Zealand, to Jocelyn Yvonne (Wemyss) and John Alexander Crowe, both of whom catered movie sets. His maternal grandfather, Stanley Wemyss, was a cinematographer. Crowe's recent ancestry includes Welsh (where his paternal grandfather was born, in Wrexham), English...
“ He isn't really old-school like Sly and the rest, but he isn't too modern either. A nice blend... or something.

The Gladiator, Heaven's Burning ” - trevor-golter
 
14.
Brad Pitt
An actor and producer known as much for his versatility as he is for his handsome face, Golden Globe-winning actor Brad Pitt's most widely recognized role may be Tyler Durden in Fight Club. But his portrayals of Billy Beane in Moneyball, and Rusty Ryan in the remake of Ocean's Eleven and its sequels, also loom large in his filmography...
“ Seriously, I'm really not good with these bios.


World War Z, The Devil's Own  ” - trevor-golter
 
15.
Carl Weathers
Actor, Predator
Carl Weathers was born on January 14, 1948, in New Orleans, Louisiana. A famous and successful football star at San Diego State, he played with the Oakland Raiders and retired from the sport in 1974, in order to give full attention to his goal: to be a real actor. Weathers first played small parts in two blaxploitation flicks...
“ Seriously, this guy is an 80s icon. We need him in Expendables


Predator, Action Jackson  ” - trevor-golter
 
16.
Liam Neeson
Liam Neeson was born on June 7, 1952 in Ballymena, Northern Ireland, UK, to Katherine (Brown), a cook, and Bernard Neeson, a school caretaker. Liam worked as a forklift operator for Guinness, truck driver, assistant architect and an amateur boxer. He had originally sought a career as a teacher by attending St Mary's Teaching College...
“ Although he has been in acting for a long time, he has only done balls to the walls action for the past decade or so. Still enough to put him here.


Taken, The Grey ” - trevor-golter
 
17.
Samuel L. Jackson
Actor, Pulp Fiction
Samuel L. Jackson was born in Washington, D.C., to Elizabeth (Montgomery) and Roy Henry Jackson. He was raised by his mother, a factory worker. Jackson was active in the black student movement. In the seventies, he joined the Negro Ensemble Company (together with Morgan Freeman). In the eighties, he became well known after three movies made bySpike Lee - Do the Right Thing...
“ I kind of feel bad now.... seriously... bios... I'm not trying to make this like some recurring theme or some joke I seriously am having a hard time.

Die Hard With A Vengeance, Pulp Fiction ” - trevor-golter
 
18.
Tom Cruise
Actor, Top Gun
If you had told fourteen-year-old Franciscan seminary student Thomas Cruise Mapother IV that one day in the not-too-distant future he would be considered one of the top hundred movie stars of all time, he would have probably grinned and told you that his ambition was to become a priest. None the less...
“ Some of you may strongly agree, some of you may strongly disagree. Too bad, my list!


Top Gun, Edge of Tomorrow ” - trevor-golter
 
19.
Sean Connery
Actor, Dr. No
Thomas Sean Connery was born on August 25, 1930 in Fountainbridge, Edinburgh. His mother, Euphamia McBain (Maclean), was a cleaning lady, and his father, Joseph Connery, was a factory worker and truck driver. He also has a brother named Neil Connery, who works as a plasterer in Edinburgh. He is of Irish and Scottish descent...
“ I'll be honest, I think Connery might be getting a little bit too old for the Expendables, even by Expendables standards. Who knows.


Dr. No, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade ” - trevor-golter
 
20.
Mr. T
Mr. T was born Laurence Tureaud on 21 May 1952, in the rough south side ghetto of Chicago. He is the second to youngest of twelve children (he has four sisters and seven brothers) and grew up in the housing projects. His father, Nathaniel Tureaud, left when Laurence was 5, and his mother raised the family on $87 a month welfare in a three-room apartment...
“ I'll be honest, I didn't even know if Mr. T was alive until I started making this list. But, if my wish for Carl Weathers comes through, maybe we could have that Mr. T and Hulk Hogan vs. Sly and Carl Weathers fight scene we all wanted.


The A-Team, Rocky 3 ” - trevor-golter
 
21.
Jackie Chan
Actor, Rush Hour
Hong Kong's cheeky, lovable and best known film star, Jackie Chan endured many years of long, hard work and multiple injuries to establish international success via his early beginnings in Hong Kong's manic martial arts cinema industry. Jackie was born Kong-sang Chan on Hong Kong's famous Victoria Peak on April 7...
“ Sly has even mentioned trying to get Jackie Chan on the Expendables films. He could also make an interesting tie to Jet Li's character.


Rush Hour, Drunken Master  ” - trevor-golter
 
22.
Robert De Niro
Actor, Goodfellas
Robert De Niro, thought of as one of the greatest American actors of all time, was born in New York City, to artists Virginia (Admiral) and Robert De Niro Sr. His paternal grandfather was of Italian descent, and his other ancestry is Irish, Dutch, English, French, and German. He was trained at the Stella Adler Conservatory and the American Workshop...
“ This guy is amazing in everything he does, and even has Sly reaching out to him.


The Godfather, Taxi Driver ” - trevor-golter
 
23.
Clint Eastwood
Perhaps the icon of macho movie stars, Clint Eastwood has become a standard in international cinema. He was born in 1930 in San Francisco, to Margaret Ruth (Runner), a factory worker, and Clinton Eastwood, Sr., a steelworker. Eastwood briefly attended Los Angeles City College but dropped out to pursue acting...
“ Although Clint Eastwood has stated he had no idea about Sly going after him or even knowing what the Expendables is about. He technically hasn't said no.


do I really need to put this here? ” - trevor-golter
 
24.
Kurt Russell
Actor, The Thing
Kurt Russell was born in Springfield, Massachusetts, to Louise Julia (Crone), a dancer, and actor Bing Russell (Neil Oliver Russell). He is of English, German, Scottish, and Irish descent. Russell landed a part in the Elvis Presley movie, It Happened at the World's Fair, when he was 10 years old. In 1960, Walt Disney himself signed Russell to a 10-year contract...
“ He has said that he has small interest in Expendables. I am not taking it as a no. I also just love this guy way too much to not put him on the list. Though #2 may be a bit debatable. Meh, oh well


Big Trouble in Little China, Escape from New York ” - trevor-golter
 
25.
Nicolas Cage
Nicolas Cage was born in Long Beach, California, the son of comparative literature professor August Coppola (a brother of director Francis Ford Coppola) and dancer/choreographer Joy Vogelsang. He is of Italian (father) and German, English, and Polish (mother) descent. Cage changed his name early in his career to make his own reputation...
“ Like him or not, It is hard to not admit he is an action star. And one of the best. With so much behind him and all the work he gets nowadays (not all of it god, admittedly) he would fit perfectly in.


Face/Off, Con Air, National Treasure, etc. ” - trevor-golter
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